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        	<title>J. Stanton on Big Brains Require An Explanation, Part I: Why Did Humans Become Smarter, Not Just More Numerous?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Kenneth:</p>
<p>That&#039;s a specific case of the general problem, which is that humans are changing our environment much more quickly than we can adapt to it.</p>
<p>JS</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:17:30 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Kenneth Shonk on Big Brains Require An Explanation, Part I: Why Did Humans Become Smarter, Not Just More Numerous?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe as global warming represents anther oscillaction, it will increase selection pressure to take humans to the next stage.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:11:15 -0700</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Elton:</p>
<p>If you can point to reliable evidence of human occupation of the Americas at 250 KYA, you&#039;ll overturn the entire field of archaeology.  Even the most aggressive interpretation of sites like Pedra Furada only goes back perhaps 48 KYA -- and those interpretations are both doubtful and hotly contested.  The earliest uncontested occupation of the Americas is about 14,800 BP at Monte Verde.</p>
<p>Frankly, I find assertions of high-tech in layers where people are <em>chipping stone points</em> to be utter bunk.  All the "mysteries" of how the pyramids or Stonehenge were built turn out to be lots and lots of people rolling things around on logs and understanding the principle of leverage.  My mind isn&#039;t closed -- but there&#039;s a very large burden of proof to meet.</p>
<p>JS</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 17:14:44 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>oops, I made a mistake.  It's 300,000 years ago, not 300 mya.  Sorry everyone.  I'm an Atlanteologist, so I have license to exaggerate. 🙂  But not by that much.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 19:28:28 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>@Sam K:</p>
<p>Uhm, we were.  There is strong evidence that Man had been on the Earth as h. sapiens 300 mya.  There are ruins in Africa that support this hypothesis, as well as digs in North America (Mexico) that have tools dating to abt 250 mya.  There have also been some anomalous artifacts that turn up every now and then that stumps science.  They aren't in the right strata, in fact they are in older strata than they are supposed to be.  We had a very high degree of technology then, perhaps ST: TNG tech.  The Mahabarata and the other Rig Vedas say we have been here for longer than Paleo-anthropologists say we have. </p>
<p>Typically, I don't know what the impetus was that drove us to till the ground and to start Agriculture from a Paleo-Anthropological perspective.  The reason why has not been explained by Scientists, they can only give dates. However, there is a reason why.  Were we meant to eat seeds?  Certainly not, not at the degree it's been pushed into our heads since school (the food pyramid is all wrong).</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 19:14:01 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>jffryz:</p>
<p>I don't find any compelling evidence that we were "created" in any meaningful sense of the term, and quite a bit of evidence to the contrary.  All the "but you haven't found the missing link!" canards have been definitively put to rest by finds like Ardipithecus and Orrorin.</p>
<p>That being said, you're welcome to take the dietary information from my other articles and discard the anthropology.  However, I have no interest in debating established scientific fact.</p>
<p>JS</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:09:53 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>we were created smarter</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 07:40:07 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Honora:</p>
<p>Very interesting...and delicious, I&#039;m sure!</p>
<p>It&#039;s no problem to eat bone marrow raw, so I don&#039;t think fire is necessary: you can just smash the bone open and dig in.  However, you can boil bones in water to extract otherwise-unavailable fat out of the extracellular matrix...the Plains Indians did that with the bison they killed. </p>
<p>Unfortunately the boiling technique was hot rocks dropped into a pit lined with bison skin, which doesn&#039;t fossilize, so we don&#039;t know for how long this technique was used.</p>
<p>JS</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:16:11 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Honora Renwick on Big Brains Require An Explanation, Part I: Why Did Humans Become Smarter, Not Just More Numerous?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Regarding using tools to extract bone marrow. When I was horse trekking with Mongolians, they roasted the bones in the fire, then smashed them on rocks and sucked out the bone marrow. I guess that could be done with a skull too. So I infer we can add the technological advance of cooking with fire for enabling more consumption of fat as well as starch.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 00:32:31 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Sean:</p>
<p>I don&#039;t know whether early birth was part of the neoteny package or not...big heads are definitely part of it, though.</p>
<p>anand:</p>
<p>That&#039;s how you know you&#039;re doing science: there isn&#039;t already a paper (or body of work) out there that answers all your questions!</p>
<p>JS</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:53:14 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>anand srivastava on Big Brains Require An Explanation, Part I: Why Did Humans Become Smarter, Not Just More Numerous?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>JS</p>
<p>Good point. Dolphins might have a larger capacity for storing proteins directly, so that they don't need to convert as much protein to glucose.</p>
<p>Or they may eat small fishes constantly. That way they don't need to store much. But this rule would apply more to blue whales, which eat very small animals.</p>
<p>Unfortunately I don't know much about their anatomy or their energy utilization :-(.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:44:15 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I always figured "premature" human babies is just another aspect of human neotony. As far as the difficulties of childbirth go, I'm convinced a lot of this is related to the modern hospitalized process--going back to doctors replacing midwives. I picked this up from Desmond Morris' "Babywatching" and my own experiences with the birthing process.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:23:07 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Vizeet:</p>
<p>Gorillas, chimpanzees, bonobos, and human hunter-gatherers all have approximately four-year interbirth intervals.  Having more than 5-6 offspring is a primarily Neolithic behavior, because it&#039;s only made possible by sedentism.  (If you&#039;re a hunter-gatherer mother, you can only realistically carry around one small child at a time.  H-G mothers nurse for several years vs. the one year or less common with agriculturalists.)</p>
<p>Also, none of the great apes have seasonal estrus, though it isn&#039;t concealed to the degree it is in humans.</p>
<p>However, you are correct AFAIK that human babies are indeed &#039;premature&#039; (helpless for longer than chimp/gorilla babies), most likely because it&#039;s difficult to fit that big head through the hips.  Thus the flared hips of the human female.</p>
<p>JS</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:52:22 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Your answer got me thinking. Aren't humans capable of reproducing more then other great apes?<br />
Some changes that happened during human evolution:<br />
1. All human babies are born premature.<br />
2. Human females are not seasonally receptive.<br />
3. Humans have shorter nursing age then other primates.</p>
<p>Isn't that human evolution not just favored increased brain size but also better ability to reproduce? May be it was easier to increase brain size then to become numerous. It might be evolution complexity involved between the two choices that favored increased brain size.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:55:31 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>@ JS, Elenor</p>
<p>Oh, I had no idea. That makes sense. I knew there had to be an (wacky) explanation behind it all 🙂</p>
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