GNOLLS.ORG - Topic: The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/ Simple:Press Version 5.7.5.3 J. Stanton on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-6/#p7579 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-6/#p7579 Sylwester:

The temperature of the breakfast isn't important: if you don't have time to prepare a hot meal, hard-boiled eggs or cold leftovers are just fine. What's important is the nutritional content: a meal of complete protein, relatively low in carbohydrates, will keep you satiated for much longer than a meal of juice (sugar) and cereal (sugar).

More articles you might be interested in:
http://www.gnolls.org/2131/the-breakfast-myth-part-1/
http://www.gnolls.org/2052/how-heart-healthy-whole-grains-make-us-fat/
http://www.gnolls.org/3409/the-calorie-paradox-did-four-rice-chex-make-america-fat-part-ii-of-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-calorie/ (see "calories at dinner vs. breakfast" section)
http://www.gnolls.org/3662/what-is-hunger-and-why-are-we-hungry-j-stantons-ahs-2012-presentation-including-slides/

JS

]]> Wed, 02 Jul 2014 23:16:13 -0700 Sylwester Smieszek on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-6/#p7569 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-6/#p7569 I have question, it's been bothering me for a while now , i was wondering if having cold beakfast is healthy or if it's unhealthy and bad for ya , please let me know what you think or simply direct me to some webs where i can find informations about it.

]]> Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:11:28 -0700 J. Stanton on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-6/#p7426 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-6/#p7426 Alice:

I'm glad to hear you're having success with such a simple change!

Do note that you don't have to eat "breakfast food" for breakfast.  While omelets are delicious and I encourage their consumption, it's unnecessary to limit oneself to eggs and pork products.  Anything you'd eat for lunch or dinner is fair game.  In fact, most people would be better served eating their evening meal for breakfast and their breakfast for dinner!

If you're in a hurry and don't have time to cook breakfast, it's nice to have some hard-boiled eggs on hand.  Just sprinkle on some seasoning and go!  (I like "creole seasoning" like Zatarain's or Tony Chachere's, but salt and pepper is fine too.)  You can also grill an entire package of sausages all at once, refrigerate them, and heat them up in ones or twos in the morning instead of having to cook them from scratch.  And dinner leftovers are also a perfectly acceptable breakfast.

Stay in touch and let us know how you get on!

JS

]]> Tue, 03 Jun 2014 00:07:25 -0700 Alice Tesla on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-6/#p7408 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-6/#p7408 I just wanted to say THANK YOU.

I started reading your site a few days ago after I was googling around about carbs (after reading the article "Always Hungry? Here's Why" that appeared in the NY Times on May 16, 2014). I have hit the "where the hell did this weight come from?" moment in my mid-thirties and so I've been trying to figure out what I need to fix about my eating to stop gaining weight and start losing some.

While I'm a long ways out from going Paleo, reading about bread being sugar (I will NEVER walk past a bakery and not think of Skittles!), and in particular how we often eat that stuff at breakfast, made me realize that the simplest positive change in my diet I could make was to totally change my first meal of the day.

So two days ago I made myself an omelette. Which might not sound like a big deal, except that it was the first omelette I'd ever eaten. This is because, as a child, I used to wretch when I even smelled eggs cooking! So I've always hated them. But I had sensed for a while that my aversion was waning, and so I felt ready to try it out. And indeed, I can manage it!

What I couldn't BELIEVE was that I didn't even think about eating again until 3pm. I just wasn't hungry. Period. Same thing today, after another omelette. Now that I've read this article, I see how badly I was hurting myself by eating low-fat, high-carb in the morning! But no more!! Time to start burning fat for energy again!!

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
-Alice

]]> Thu, 29 May 2014 07:57:12 -0700 J. Stanton on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-6/#p6882 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-6/#p6882 Troy:

"Breakfast" is whenever you wake up, and "dinner" is whenever you fall asleep.  So if you're eating dinner-style foods for "breakfast", you're doing well, and likely much better off than most!

If you're hungry coming off a multi-day fast, it's not really possible to "overeat" unless you're drinking olive oil straight from the bottle.  If you end up binging on junk, that's another issue...do you fast because you're trying to achieve an objective, or simply because your schedule makes it inconvenient to eat?

JS

]]> Mon, 03 Mar 2014 23:20:40 -0800 Troy T. on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p6876 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p6876 Great read! May be an ignorant question but curious on how to properly eat when working night shifts such as myself. Is it Just backwards? I wake up around early dinner time and don't eat as if it were to be my breakfast. Breakfast time for most people feels like my dinner and is usually the time I eat. Also I have a bad habit of fasting for days at times and was wondering if there is any other way not to over eat coming off of fasting. Thanks for the read and any feed back I could get would be appreciated.

]]> Mon, 03 Mar 2014 08:42:18 -0800 J. Stanton on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p6005 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p6005 H:

I'd love to see the citations you're speaking of on eating frequency and insulin...feel free to leave them in a comment or send them to me via gnolls.org/contact.

The "need to have a baby" explanation is tempting -- as is most plausible-sounding evo-bio speculation -- but it doesn't explain why menopausal and post-menopausal women often seem to suffer even worse.

That being said, I don't disagree that women don't seem to respond as well as men to long IFs: I've noted above that women often seem to do best with a late breakfast and skipping lunch, vs. skipping breakfast entirely, as many men do. 

JS

]]> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:27:44 -0700 H on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p6001 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p6001 There are some studies emerging which show that eating frequently actually improves insulin sensitivity for women. This is in opposition to all the research on intermittent fasting showing that skipping meals improves insulin sensitivity - those studies have been conducted on men only.

I agree that if you're not hungry at breakfast (I never have been) you shouldn't eat. But fasting may be counterproductive for women.

Women's bodies seem to be more attached to their fat stores than men's. Women experience starvation response mechanisms much more quickly than men do. Women's bodies have to be ready to have a baby, and that makes fat stores and access to food very important. Regular meals, and even regular starchy carbohydrates, seem to be extra important for women. Otherwise our bodies seem to think they are not being fed, and stress and hunger hormones go up, fertility goes down, and health risks increase.

Just an interesting thought to add to the other commenters who observe that women seem to need to eat more consistently, and more carbohydrates, than men.

]]> Mon, 15 Jul 2013 02:28:35 -0700 J. Stanton on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5867 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5867 Robert F:

Interesting!  The therapeutic value of fasting and meal skipping has been known for quite a while...and the empirical evidence is that we had a much better handle on weight control "back in the day".

JS

]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 01:52:33 -0700 Robert F on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5848 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5848 An interesting read from 1900.

The No Breakfast Plan and The Fasting Cure by Edward Hooker Dewey, M.D. Free on Kindle.

]]> Sat, 01 Jun 2013 13:22:50 -0700 J. Stanton on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5058 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5058 Robyn:

If you're legitimately hungry at breakfast, then eat!  When I'm trying to gain muscle mass, I'll eat breakfast too.  What I'm saying is that it's counterproductive to force ourselves to eat when we're not hungry just because we're supposed to want food at a certain time.

Mima:

Morning coffee is fine so long as you're drinking coffee -- not a latte, mocha, "frappucino", or any other sugary concoction.  It's also an effective appetite suppressant.  And a little cream in it won't hurt, either.

E Craig:

Good coffee is a pleasure, though I rarely indulge so as to maintain a robust response to caffeine when I really need it.

JS

]]> Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:54:23 -0800 E Craig on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5005 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5005 Mima, how do you feel when you wait to eat in the morning until you're hungry?

 

(Coffee geek mode start)

Black coffee / straight shot of espresso should *not* make even genetic 'bitter tastes' want to wretch.  It should be pleasantly bitter and not taste burned or scorched. (Unless you're in Southern Italy).  Genetic bitter tasters (husband is, I'm only partly) may have a harder time of it.

(coffee geek mode end)

 

Eat if you wake up truly hungry, but make food choices that aren't going to give you a hyper-spazz rush but then lead to a horrid crash at the bottom of Blood Sugar mountain.

]]> Thu, 13 Dec 2012 04:31:28 -0800 Mima on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5002 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5002 I'm fine skipping breakfast. But can I still have my coffee? Maybe with cream and no sugar?

]]> Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:14:54 -0800 Mima on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5001 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p5001 I'm fine skipping breakfast. But can I still have my coffee? Maybe with cream and no sugar?

]]> Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:02:44 -0800 Robyn on The Breakfast Myth, Part 2: The Art and Science Of Not Eating Breakfast http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p4979 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/the-breakfast-myth-part-2-the-art-and-science-of-not-eating-breakfast/page-5/#p4979 I haven't read all the comments, but is there anyone here who actually needs to eat to avoid losing weight? I'm slim and healthy and would feel awful if I didn't eat within 30mins of rising. It bothers me, but at least on occasions like Xmas or other dinner parties, I don't need to worry about my weight because I never do gain weight.
For me breakfast is the most important meal of the day, along with lunch and dinner, which I am physically unable to skip.

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