GNOLLS.ORG - Topic: Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/ Simple:Press Version 5.7.5.3 Sasha on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-8/#p8441 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-8/#p8441 So full of lies

Bullshit mate, pure ducking bullshit...those vegans who have all those problems did it ignorantly, imbalanced ratios, often missing key plant sources

Nice try at the propaganda...Not ONE PICTURE of you on this website.

]]> Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:50:45 -0700 David on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-8/#p8414 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-8/#p8414 So, basically, a bro-science article with no citations to fact or study or anything other than anecdotes. And you are such an expert because you have the erroneous belief that all vegans eat tiny portions of birdfood. What a joke.

Would love to see Durianrider, or any qualified doctor or dietitian analyze this.

B12? Get a shot. Buy some vitamins.

]]> Wed, 12 Dec 2018 21:09:02 -0800 David on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-8/#p8413 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-8/#p8413 Explain vegan cyclists then.

]]> Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:20:46 -0800 Mimi on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p8403 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p8403 Bonjour,
Intéressant tout ça.
Mais dans une société en surproduction, ou notre seul souci constant est....ben en fait on en a aucun !
Allons faire un petit stage de plusieurs jours dans certain pays...Laos Madagascar, on apprendrai très vite la valeur réelle de l alimentation et que dans chaque aliment viandes légume légumineuse racines meme etc on y trouvera ce que notre organisme à besoin.
Et on apprendrai qu un repas par 24 heuros est suffisant à condition qu il soit complet...et avec un peu de chance on a un autre repas 24 heure après. ..en ayant évidemment eu une activité physique autre que de regarder la télévision

]]> Thu, 27 Sep 2018 08:46:26 -0700 Marek on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p8357 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p8357 Are there any studies to back this up? Would love to share them. . .

]]> Tue, 05 Dec 2017 09:27:39 -0800 Stian Andersen on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p8338 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p8338 Hello

First of all i would say that when you put an error in the beginning of your article, you lost my trust. B12 is not coming from animals. Its a bacteria from the soil. These days all vegetables and fruits (most anyway) are cleaned in a way that B12 bacterias have no chance to survive.

Meat also contain much less B12 than before, why? Because most animals dont grass feed anymore. They get their food from soy or corn who is, you guessed it, striped away for B12. I went vegan for 8 month ago. Right before i did i had my blood tested. And my b 12 levels were at 181 (low). Let me tell you that i ate a LOT of meat back then. So my suggestion is for all of you guys. Go and check your B12 levels. My guess is that most of you have rather low levels.

Dont be a troll and say that all vegans are unhealthy.

]]> Fri, 26 Dec 2014 02:29:05 -0800 Steve on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p8304 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p8304 Finally someone dares to speak the truth about vegan diets, thank you!

]]> Thu, 27 Nov 2014 15:19:44 -0800 Muhamad on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p8294 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p8294 Wow I've never read such a load of propaganda for the meat industry. In our family we have (including myself) 3 adult generations of vegans (2) and vegetarian (1). We eat very well balanced diets, of a wide range of healthy organic vegetables, fruits, legumes, grains, etc which contain iron, protein, etc, to satisfy our nutritional requirements, and our bloodworks show no deficiencies whatsover. The only supplement which I take is a Vitamin B12 several times a week. A small price to pay considering the many benefits of eating a whole foods plant based diet, which contains no cholesterol, healthy fats from whole vegetables (avocado's etc). You obviously have only met vegans from US, which would explain your derision, considering your ag-laws are bullshit and favour only the corporations, not the consumer, hence the low quality of all of your foods. Quality of meat and vegetables is far superior elsewhere in the world.

]]> Tue, 18 Nov 2014 23:07:27 -0800 Skgr on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7993 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7993

Natalie said
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If, I may ask, how do obtain DHA and Vitamin B12 in your diet? Do you supplement it? I'm lacto-ovo vegetarian and I've seen many vegans neglect supplements because they are not "natural". In my opinion, I don't think there is anything wrong with an unnatural diet/lifestyle if it is healthy and sustainable.`

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2014 17:24:30 -0700 Natalie on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7991 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7991 The reason people on a vegan lifestyle get sick after a short period of time is because they continue to eat the same amount of calories that that would on their fat, meat, and dairy lifestyle. People need to be eating a lot of calories. For example ten to fifteen bananas in one meal, five to six mangoes in another meal, or a huge bowl of rice or potatoes. I'm talking two to three pounds of potatoes here guys. When eating vegan one must eat foods high in carbs and sugar not just low carb vegetables. Your body doesn't run on fat. It runs on carbs and sugars. I consume 2000-3500 calories a day or high carb vegan food. I'm not tired or unhappy and I'm not fat. I don't push my lifestyle on anyone, but if you are going to talk about it get your facts straight. New vegans are just uneducated. Trust me I was one. I got hungry went back to eating meat and then got fat. Now that I understand how much I should be eating while vegan everything has evened out for me.

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2014 12:59:11 -0700 alex on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7813 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7813 Ugh, where are you getting your info? As long as you make healthy choices whike being a vegan/vegetarian, you will be far more healthy than those who enjoy the artery clogging, inhumane choices of flesh and other animal secretions. there are many Many vegan elite athletes out there that im sure will put your physical prowess to shame, as well as your entire blog full of unsubstantiated nothingness. i myself, am an endurance athlete (long course) triathlete hoping to go pro) who trains anywhere from 15-24 hrs per week in running, swimming, cycling, strength training, cross training, yoga plyometrics, etc. im a female , yet have amazing muscle size and tone that few women will ever achieve.......as well as a low yet still healthy body fat percentage that few women will ever obtain. This all comes from good hard work and good non toxic eating. I highly HIGHLY doubt that i would be able to train to the extent that i do, while competing in ultra marathons of fifty miles or more, or triathlons of 10 hrs or more. My cholesterol is amazing. I have an hdl of 119!.....an a1c of 3.8.....all necessary vitamins and electrolytes. Im a smart eater and trainer. Your post is nonsense. And trust me when i say, there are many more just like me. If some vegans are stupid ebough to eat pasta all day long, become unhealthy, then profusely praise and agree with this nonsense post, than thats on them. Be smart about your diet as a vegan, your risk for certain cancers, high cholesterol, diabetes, obesity and other chronic conditions, will greatly diminish, you will live longer, and you will not be contributing to the unnecessary suffering of animals for humans selfish desires (not needs). Oh, and to whomever was speaking about HUMANE farming......give it a rest. No slaughter is HUMANE, no matter how you try to fool your concience.

]]> Mon, 11 Aug 2014 22:28:07 -0700 Skgr on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7795 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7795

Emily said

I have to say that I DO feel incredible..mentally, physically, and emotionally. My friends all notice my seemingly "infinite" energy levels, as well as how clean my complexion looks. So replacing animal products with a more plant based diet certainly has done wonders for me.

The same thing happened to me when I started to go vegetarian (lacto-ovo). I also have an intolerance to red meat, (and a slight intolerance to poultry). Dairy causes me to break out (acne) but I can still eat it in small amounts. It really is amazing what going vegetarian has done for me mentally and physically.

Emily said

One thing I'm confused about after reading your article is that why can't vegans just take vitamin supplements for B12 and DHA instead of "starving themselves" of these nutrients? Wouldn't that fill in the nutrient gap? I'm curious...

It would but I think his point is that taking vitamin supplements means the diet isn't natural. (Although B12 can be obtained naturally.) If that is his argument it holds no value in my opinion. Natural isn't always what is best (unless proven otherwise).

]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:13:00 -0700 Emily on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7753 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7753 I started laughing while reading this because I seriously thought "Ok...this article sounds so demeaning it HAS to be some sort of hoax!" But after reading the serious tone in the comments...I think this guy is for real. I am not a vegan...But over the past year I ave been phasing out meat to the point now where RARELY ever eat it. I also significantly limit my dairy consumption. I have to say that I DO feel incredible..mentally, physically, and emotionally. My friends all notice my seemingly "infinite" energy levels, as well as how clean my complexion looks. So replacing animal products with a more plant based diet certainly has done wonders for me.
That being said however, I am an extremely open minded person. Is a 100% vegan diet as fantastic as people say? Perhaps. I've heard many, many success stories, but I've also heard quite a few health disasters from going vegan as well. So I'm not entirely sure. One thing I'm confused about after reading your article is that why can't vegans just take vitamin supplements for B12 and DHA instead of "starving themselves" of these nutrients? Wouldn't that fill in the nutrient gap? I'm curious...

]]> Sat, 02 Aug 2014 09:32:46 -0700 Skgr on Vegans Are Cannibals: The Truth Behind The "New Vegan High" http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7640 Comment Threads http://www.gnolls.org/forums/comment-threads/vegans-are-cannibals-the-truth-behind-the-new-vegan-high/page-7/#p7640

Kenneth said

Utter rubbish and based on pure ignorance. This is a joke,right?

I agree, but if your post will be worth anything, state what points are fallacious and then refute them. I would, but I'm already keeping up with a few threads on this site.

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