The low fat high exercise works best for young people and mostly short term, there commercial franchises based on the short termness of such plans. I've heard that women who actually succeede long term on such on Weight Watchers, for example, usually become paid leaders. In any event where on such diets do you get your fat soluble vitamins? And indeed, who has the time to spend in the gym?

Just responding to the ideat that the whole theory has been debunked.

Personally I think obesity is multi causal and like any multi causal condition there are going to be differing responses to differing interventions.

I actually consider food reward and insulin theory as two culprits that can affect someone independantly or in conjunction. See no reason for conflict between the two.

The fear is that because we have discovered some people that can lose weight including ample starch, we start telling EVERYONE that the whole carbs theory is bogus, clearly it is not.

Back in the 50s there were very interesting experiments done with carbs which were made radioactive and fed to people with different base metabolisms. It was pretty clearly established that there are two completely different base responses to excess carbs. Mr. "Fatten easily" would store them and Mr. "Skinny" would simply end up with a higher metabolic rate, higher body temperature, and burn them. Personally I think we should spend more time looking at the research that has alread been done (and there is a HUGE amount) rather then the very latest and greatest research which is not always on point.

In the above research it can actually be witnessed where the carbs go via X-rays in the two body types. I find that pretty convincing well beyond anything we can associate with a kitavan or inuit lifestyle.

So for me there is no real arguement, as I think many theories are "right". I have never felt in life that someone else has to be wrong for me to be right. Quite often there are many right answers.

I do give pause and debate when I see poor science passed around paleo as gospel, supported only by confirmation bias.

I am a huge proponent of low carb keto diets, and even have great success on zero carb. However I do have to aknowledge that I lost a great deal of weight doing the typical SAD diet low fat, calorie count approach that everyone in paleo says will never work. In fact, it worked really well for me, I busted my ass in the gym and counted every calorie and was very healthy and losing 5 pounds a week.

Its actually tempting to return to that method at times, except it requires huge amounts of gym time I do not have today...

Postage to the UK costs almost as much as the book itself.  If you also want a T-shirt or multiple copies, it's a bit less ridiculous...contact 100 Watt Press if you'd like a quote.  Otherwise, it's probably best to order from Amazon UK.

I left a comment on the post of Ned's you linked.

Jen W:

I need to upgrade my forum software, which tends to munch links.  Meanwhile, use HTML...surround a short name with an A HREF tag and it'll work fine.

Marilyn:

Sounds like my grandmother's basement: big old freezers and shelves full of home-canned meats and veggies!

JS

The link doesn't work.

http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/no-

i've started reading hyperlipid but in all honesty he seems worlds ahead of my current knowledge level and i just feel like a new sprinter getting in on a Usain bolt calibre race.
that said a lot of what i can follow is extremely interesting.

If you order directly from 100WP, I'll sign a copy for you.

Dave:

Much of "nutrition science" and "obesity research" is politically driven, because it's funded by the US government -- which isn't interested in results that contravene a public policy dedicated to subsidizing giant agribusiness corporations via the overproduction of (genetically modified) grains.

JS

YES! YES! YES!

Now, about the bread. Unfortunately, I like bread. Fortunately, I seem able to tolerate a just a bit of it from time to time. It is an especially convenient vehicle for extremely fatty foods like butter and cheeses. But, I don't try to kid myself that grains are healthy.

had to add the gnoll credo to my wish list, my copy has vanished! not sure if we've lent it to someone and forgotten or it's just hiding in my house, but when i went back to read it again it was no where to be found!

I appreciate the comment support...after an initial rash of disbelief, things appear to have settled down somewhat.

Cyclops:

I can't take any credit for the second video...I'm just spreading it.

Neal:

You have to ask to get them cut that way -- but it's about a million times easier than having them cut in little donuts and having to spoon the marrow out.

Jen W:

You'll have to ask Danny exactly how the heart was prepared.

Jamie:

Sounds delicious!

E Craig:

Make sure to forward it to "the masses", i.e. the people with too little time or patience to read my articles.

Alice:

Happy Thanksgiving to you too!

Mitsouko:

There's a big difference between potatoes and bread, or any gluten grain...and, based on the comments, it's clear the "magical potato diet" doesn't work for everyone.

Just like keto/VLC works very well for many, but not for everyone.  

How about that!

Perhaps the problem is that human metabolism and hunger signaling is complicated, and not everyone with pounds to lose has the exact same sticking point?

It's entertaining to see the fashion swing back and forth between pure keto/VLC and pure starch...one stops working, then people "discover" the other.  Eventually potatoes will stop working, too, and they'll rediscover keto/VLC, and back and forth we go...

...and maybe some of them will eventually realize that they've slowly converged onto what the professional weight-class athletes have been doing for years, which is often some variant on cyclical ketogenic diets (i.e. alternating keto runs with high-starch, low-fat refeeds).  The weightlifters and fighters and bodybuilders might not know all about antinutrients -- but there's a lot of money and fame riding on their ability to strip fat off their bodies.

Danny:

The biochemical role of insulin (energy storage) isn't controversial unless you're trying to start an argument.  What's controversial is the idea that carbohydrates, by themselves, are mostly or solely responsible for making us fat.  That's clearly not true...

...but neither is the naive opposition which claims things like "Kitavans disprove everything!!11!1!" or "I lost weight on potatoes, so what's your problem, fatty?"  Some people have a measurably dysfunctional ability to process dietary carbohydrate (see: metabolic flexibility).  Peter is one of the few people trying to figure out exactly how that happens, instead of simply dismissing measurable data because they're emotionally or professionally invested in an idea that doesn't account for it.

JS

I guess I didn't get the memo 😉

All I saw was some sort of claim its not a problem in isocaloric diets in metabolic wards where people cannot snack at will because they are on an isocaloric diet...no matter how hungry they get.