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Better Health: It's Less Complicated Than You Think
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September 20, 2011
8:58 am
John
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Kaa,

According to the Seven Countries Study, both Fat AND Protien consumption in Japan went up from 1958 to 1989. "Vegetable" oils are pure fat, while meat is fat and protien. Simply adding in oil wouldn't account for the rise in protien. In fact, if oils were simply added, the percentage of protien would have gone DOWN. I believe the study even observed that meat consumption rose with incomes in Japan during the time.

Also, some vegetable oils didn't even exist for the first 20 years of the study- Canola oil, for example, wasn't even sold as a food until 1978. You seem to be speculating based on nothing.

September 22, 2011
9:53 pm
Natalia
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All this remainds me the very first frase from Tolstoy's "Anna Karenina" about happy and unhappy families.
So, there are many diseases but only one health.
JS, thank you for interesting reeding and discussion.

September 23, 2011
5:41 am
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Natalia:

That's a good analogy.  And even if there are multiple solutions to a problem, there are usually uncountably many more ways to be wrong than right.

JS

September 24, 2011
10:02 pm
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[...] better health is less complicated than you think recipe: sweet and spicy apricot lamb [...]

December 22, 2011
3:10 pm
Dr. Gee
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How about this?

"high cholesterol is a sign of statin deficiency."

XD

December 23, 2011
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Dr. Gee:

Again, it's best not to ask how humans survived before the discovery of statins (or "red yeast rice", if you prefer the herbal version).

JS

June 14, 2012
11:20 am
kacper
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why is that i cant get six-pack i eat less carbs, 90g of fat and more protien. but still i cant get six-pack no matter what i do.

i eat around 2000 kcal per day and i am very active

help me in this situation.

June 14, 2012
12:40 pm
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kacper:

The "six pack problem" is way beyond the purview of a single comment.  Furthermore, it's difficult to do without unnatural dietary modifications that are neither "paleo" nor healthy: see the classic article You, too, can't have a body like this.  

That being said, the bodybuilders and weight-class athletes (e.g. powerlifters, MMA) have you covered on that score.  Look into cyclical ketogenic diets like Jamie Lewis' Apex Predator Diet (warning: his site is extremely NSFW).

JS

June 15, 2012
3:49 am
kacper
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thanks for responding back- if you have more link about getting six-pack then if you can list all the website you think is the best way to get six-pack.

June 15, 2012
10:14 am
Rita
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what is the whole point of paleo diet.

is it to make you lose fat?

is it to make you healthy and put less stress on body digestive system?

i am confused here... can u explain

would paleo diet work if u want to get as lean as possible.

June 15, 2012
1:26 pm
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Paleo is quite simply about eating according to our evolutionary dietary principles - real food, made up of things we find and can catch in fields, streams, woods, the sea and open grassland. Meat, fish, shellfish, eggs and vegetables.

We do not live like our paleolithic ancestors, but if we try to imitate these simple dietary principles we stand in much greater stead of being able to live a healthy and productive life. Taking that and combining it with biochemistry, we see that this ancestral way of eating is quite simply proven to be right - our bodies like to thrive on eating like this.

People lose weight, people gain in strength and stamina, people reverse disease.

Question why you want to be as lean as possible. Yes, paleo eating can get you there - just eat protein and fat with as little carb as you can. Is it healthy? Should your body be like that? How might you survive a harsh winter without some fat around a strong body? It will wither fast as you dig into your hard earned muscles for life sustaining energy.

Paleo is a broad spectrum. Very active folks can eat more protein, more fat and more carb. Sedentary people like to err on a lower carb side of paleo, enjoying moderate protein and fat.

The best thing about paleo is that it puts you in touch with your body - you will find a level based on your activity and needs. It just happens, as if by magic, but there's not magic - it is natural. This is how we are supposed to live!

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June 16, 2012
8:25 am
jason
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i have been following your diet for the past two month now and to be honest i have gone fatter and i lost my 6-pack.
i cut down on all the processed food from my diet that u told me to not eat.

i eat 5 fruit a day (banana, apples, mango, water melon, cherries and pear) more red meat, more eggs, canned wild salmon, more potatoes and finally i eat dark chocolate.

i eat a lot of fat such peanut butter, olive oil, red meat and eggs including yolk.

sometimes when i snack i usually eat peanut butter, almond or fruit.

June 16, 2012
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Possibly there's your problem Jason - snacking, and on peanut butter, too. Peanuts are technically legumes, not nuts and as such not really welcome in paleo orientated dietary approaches.

Maybe knock down the fruit - one a day as part of your five a day, the other four being veggies, one or two of which can be carby roots.

Do predators graze their way through the day snacking? Nah! They stalk, kill and eat. It's what they eat that grazes.

Good that you've knocked out the processed food - real food talks little thought or preparation. Just clean and peel where necessary, cut, cook. Easy. That really is all there is to it.

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June 16, 2012
10:35 pm
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kacper:

You're not going to find a "six-pack diet" that doesn't involve some amount of misery.  Look up "cyclical ketogenic diet", "Velocity Diet", "protein-sparing modified fast"...or just suck it up and use Jamie's, which I already linked above.  

Paul:

I tend to agree.  Yes, there are a few men who sport a six-pack on any diet...just like there are a few women who have natural E cups.  However, they're rare.

Rita:

The point is to eat in a way that allows us to reach our full potential as humans -- strong, smart, and healthy.  If you just want to get as lean as possible, see my reply above to kacper.

jason:

If you want to lean out:

-Go much higher on the protein and lower on the fat...i.e. leaner meats

-When you eat fat, make it coconut oil whenever possible

-More vegetables

-NO PEANUT BUTTER.  It's incomplete protein and a whole bunch of omega-6.  Peanut butter is not part of this diet!  I suspect this is a big part of your problem right here.  I'd ditch the other nuts, too, for similar reasons...most aren't as bad as peanuts, but they're calorie bombs and not all that nutritionally dense.

-NO SNACKING!  You don't lose fat if you're constantly snacking.  Either fix a meal or suck it up.  And if you can't go between meals without snacking, either you didn't eat enough or you're still not fat-adapted.

-Go easy on the fruit, and only eat it as dessert -- no between-meal fruit snacks

Let me know how this goes for you.  Remember, there is also the possibility that (depending on what you ate before) your body is simply stocking up on nutrients it hasn't had for a long time.

JS

June 20, 2012
7:55 am
Mike K
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i have been following your diet and i have seen good result in short amount of time i lost 2 kg in two weeks time but my main concern is that i lost muscle along with the fat. as i am athlete i want to retain my muscle and lose more body fat.

30% of my calorie comes from fat, 30% comes from carbohydrate and rest from protein.

June 20, 2012
12:42 pm
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Mike K:

If you're managing to lose muscle on a 40% protein diet, you're not eating enough food. 

Paleo foods, being nutritious, are far more satiating (and sating), per calorie, than processed foods...so if you're eating to the same degree of satiation that you were before, you're very likely to be eating less food than you were before.  (Total up your calorie intake on something like fitday if you're curious.)  If you were weight-stable before, the likely result will be weight loss.

Fortunately the solution is simple: eat more food! 

JS

June 20, 2012
1:42 pm
Mike k
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i do use fitday to keep my kcal intake and it is around 2200 Kcal a day.

June 20, 2012
3:29 pm
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Mike K:

Then you need to increase that number until you stop losing weight.  

It's certainly not a protein shortage...if you're eating 40% protein calories at 2200 kcal/d, that's over 200g/day of protein!  It's very rare that I'll ever say this, but you need to increase your carb and fat intake.  For leaning-out purposes, make that fat coconut oil.

JS

June 21, 2012
4:23 am
Mike k
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1, eating salt more than your daily requirement bad for your health.

2, is eating fruits before your meal would be better or after.

3, is eating morrow bones on occasion fine or bad.

4, is eating frozen haddock is the same as fresh.

5, eating tablespoon of flaxseed after meal.

June 22, 2012
3:23 am
sunil basharat
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eating red kidney beans twice a week or should i avoid it.

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