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Video Week! My Epipheo On White Bread, and Nose to Tail Eating
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November 26, 2012
7:14 am
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Gnoll
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Eddie,

 

The link doesn't work.

"Often we forget . . . the sky reaches to the ground . . . with each step . . . we fly."  ~We Fly, The House Jacks

November 26, 2012
9:00 am
Marilyn
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Off this topic a bit, but thanks for the freezer info. I just had to tell you that I couldn't function without a freezer. In the basement, we have a big chest-type freezer that is pushing 50 and just keeps humming along. (You can be sure it doesn't have any automatic defrost function) It's great to be able to order nice meats from anywhere in the country.

November 26, 2012
9:18 am
Marilyn
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Before electricity, Mom used to can meats. Steaks and roasts cut in small pieces to fit in the jars. Pickled heart and pickled tongue. It's been a looooong time since I've tasted any of those good things.

November 26, 2012
8:44 pm
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eddie:

Postage to the UK costs almost as much as the book itself.  If you also want a T-shirt or multiple copies, it's a bit less ridiculous...contact 100 Watt Press if you'd like a quote.  Otherwise, it's probably best to order from Amazon UK.

I left a comment on the post of Ned's you linked.

Jen W:

I need to upgrade my forum software, which tends to munch links.  Meanwhile, use HTML...surround a short name with an A HREF tag and it'll work fine.

Marilyn:

Sounds like my grandmother's basement: big old freezers and shelves full of home-canned meats and veggies!

JS

November 28, 2012
10:05 pm
Katherine
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I'm just amazed at the Primal breakfast video, where for dessert they wrap sticks of butter in bacon, dip them in chocolate, and each eat one.

December 12, 2012
5:42 am
Danny J Albers
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No, not trying to start an arguement.

Just responding to the ideat that the whole theory has been debunked.

Personally I think obesity is multi causal and like any multi causal condition there are going to be differing responses to differing interventions.

I actually consider food reward and insulin theory as two culprits that can affect someone independantly or in conjunction. See no reason for conflict between the two.

The fear is that because we have discovered some people that can lose weight including ample starch, we start telling EVERYONE that the whole carbs theory is bogus, clearly it is not.

Back in the 50s there were very interesting experiments done with carbs which were made radioactive and fed to people with different base metabolisms. It was pretty clearly established that there are two completely different base responses to excess carbs. Mr. "Fatten easily" would store them and Mr. "Skinny" would simply end up with a higher metabolic rate, higher body temperature, and burn them. Personally I think we should spend more time looking at the research that has alread been done (and there is a HUGE amount) rather then the very latest and greatest research which is not always on point.

In the above research it can actually be witnessed where the carbs go via X-rays in the two body types. I find that pretty convincing well beyond anything we can associate with a kitavan or inuit lifestyle.

So for me there is no real arguement, as I think many theories are "right". I have never felt in life that someone else has to be wrong for me to be right. Quite often there are many right answers.

I do give pause and debate when I see poor science passed around paleo as gospel, supported only by confirmation bias.

I am a huge proponent of low carb keto diets, and even have great success on zero carb. However I do have to aknowledge that I lost a great deal of weight doing the typical SAD diet low fat, calorie count approach that everyone in paleo says will never work. In fact, it worked really well for me, I busted my ass in the gym and counted every calorie and was very healthy and losing 5 pounds a week.

Its actually tempting to return to that method at times, except it requires huge amounts of gym time I do not have today...

November 28, 2013
5:47 am
WalterB
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@Danny J Albers

The low fat high exercise works best for young people and mostly short term, there commercial franchises based on the short termness of such plans. I've heard that women who actually succeede long term on such on Weight Watchers, for example, usually become paid leaders. In any event where on such diets do you get your fat soluble vitamins? And indeed, who has the time to spend in the gym?

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