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What's your pleasure, Sir?
June 8, 2011
11:50 am
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Simple question: being a paleolithic/primal predator (or possibly a gnoll) what guilty pleasures do you have?

For me, it's beer … lots of it … and … wait for it … processed cheese Embarassed

I know I shouldn't but I just love a piece of this every so often: http://www.dairylea.co.uk/

That, or worse: http://www.primula.co.uk/

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June 9, 2011
1:23 pm
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Nobody? Oh, my Lord! Have I made the ultimate faux pas and stepped into a paleo-pure world admitting that I like processed cheese Embarassed

Come on, guys and gals ... you have a weak spot ... what is it?

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June 9, 2011
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Paul:

My minor cheats include Rice Chex in half-and-half (as a dessert, though, not as breakfast) and using table sugar to make gravlax (as per my recipe).

As far as full-on vices: Coca-Cola.  Every once in a while I just want a damn Coke.  But I can't drink more than 12 ounces at a time, and even that's a push sometimes.

JS

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June 10, 2011
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Um, well, if it will help you feel better...it's Spam.  I think Spam outcheats processed cheese, hands down.    And a Hebrew National hot dog is downright tasty from time to time. 

 

I suspect we need to spend more time outdoors, or somethingLaugh

 

But, Coke?  Yowsers.

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June 11, 2011
2:58 am
Halifax, UK
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Kudos, Otherworld! Spam Cool

That's all the stuff they swept up off the floor and couldn't put into sausages!

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June 14, 2011
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As time goes on, I'm finding the caffeine is more what I want than the sugar...so I may switch to coffee. (Diet sweeteners are disgusting.)

Processed 'cheese'?  Ecch.  I guess everyone is different!

JS

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June 15, 2011
2:30 pm
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Tea is nice. I think there's more caffeine in tea than an equivalent cup of coffee. I like stronger teas. Also have a look at Masala Chai - Indian tea. You can milk it up with coconut milk, leave out the sugar and it still tastes great! Use coconut cream and a little honey if you like it fuller and sweeter.

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June 16, 2011
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I'm getting back into mate: it tastes moderately vile (which prevents overindulgence), it's a bit smoother than pure caffeine, and it's amazingly cheap.

 

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June 25, 2011
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Coffee is the nectar of the gods! I can't say it is a guilty pleasure for me, because I never really removed it from my diet. It is more of a staple... I'll get there.

Popcorn with Red Hot is a favorite late night snack every once in a while. Delicious!

Since I am in the process of building motivation to remove coffee from my diet, here is an interesting article: http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/25/2/364.full

J - I would love to get your opinion on caffeine sometime.

... and I get the Coke craving after a long day playing outside wtih my kids, cycling, climbing, or hiking... there is just something about a cold Coke on a hot summer day.

 

Make yourself a great day!

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June 26, 2011
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Aug:

That paper makes sense, and I may put together an article on caffeine consumption someday.  Thanks for the reference!

JS

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June 30, 2011
11:06 pm
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For me it is definitely coffee & dark chocolate. I buy 80-90% dark. And a french press each day.

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July 2, 2011
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Shane:

If you consider coffee and dark chocolate in moderation non-paleo, I think there would be about three actual paleo dieters left on the planet!

JS

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July 26, 2011
3:15 pm
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Woo! Hoo! I'm one of them ... no coffee or chocolate for me.

Back to my poison .... I've not had any processed cheese in ages and to be honest, I think it's out of my system. I do have a bit of a problem with coconut cream, though. I don't have a sweet tooth, but I do like a little when I have an occasional dessert, something like berries with an almond crust. Once the carton is open, I pile through the stuff.

So long as it's occasional, I guess a binge is okay. I've done this twice in about 6 weeks.

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August 1, 2011
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Paul:

Congrats on kicking the processed cheese!  I had a glass of Coke the other day and it was too much...too sweet.  I can still eat cheesecake, though.

There are far worse things to binge on than coconut cream.  It's reasonably healthy, and all it will do is make you fat if you do it often.

JS

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August 1, 2011
2:16 pm
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I have just discovered coconut cream. I am also very happy that I enjoy berries with whipped double cream - I eat this a couple of times a week if I've had a light (or relatively unfatty) meal.

I never really ate many desserts, but two I did like were plain vanilla ice cream and any kind of set (not baked) cheesecake.

Using prunes and smashed macadamia nuts for a base is good, load up the mascarpone and let it set in the fridge. Squeeze out some passion fruits over the top just before serving and enjoy.

I'm still thinking through the lacto-paleo thing. I'm very much with you and Harris on this matter - milk is not a big deal so long as you are not intolerant; and there are many hunter-gatherer cultures which partake, be it cow, bison, buffalo, reindeer, yak, whatever. I've said before that I drink so little "milk", but do really enjoy heavy cream, fermented cheeses, yoghurt and so on, and find them very beneficial to my diet.

Aside from this kind of dairy and spirits (single malt Scotch whisky and Russian/Scandinavian vodka) I have been very straight with my paleo diet and I'm really enjoying it.

While we're on junk food, I do have two cans of Spam in the cupboard! They're from an elderly couple who were clearing their house out before moving on to a retirement home. Should I eat them? Slices of Spam with a fried egg of top is really damn good!

I need a new non-paleo junk food cheat/treat ...

I think the only thing I really enjoy (and have had once since my initial '30 Days of Paleo' challenge) is faggots. This is a pork meat and offal meatball set in a thick marrow gravy. There is some flour in these. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food) - if this is as much off trail as I eat, and only very occasionally I think I'd doing well.

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September 6, 2011
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Okay, I'll go.

 

Having only done this for a week (I know, I know, but a cub!) bare with me. 

 

Milk.  It's the one thing I do not want to let go of.  Regular old processed whole milk from Clover farms.  Just THINKING about it makes me drool. 

 

I did have a brief craving for a burger, but, y'know...having been on diet after diet, that kind of thing I can easily let slide from my mind.  Why would I want a burger when I can have a frickin' STEAK?

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September 8, 2011
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Paul:

Fried Spam with a fried egg is good.  I'd save it for camping food, personally...to me, Spam only tastes good outdoors.  And faggots sound delicious, actually...I'm sure you could make your own with rice or coconut flour, but they sound like a somewhat elaborate PITA to make.

As far as non-paleo junk food cheat/treats, that's really a personal thing, so I can't offer advice.

PDW:

Milk is delicious.  Half and half is even more delicious.  But liquid calories are very, very dangerous if you're trying to lose weight: that's why I proscribe them in "Eat Like A Predator".  It's easy to drink hundreds of calories in a few seconds with full-fat dairy.  Better to get the calories as fat attached to meat or eggs, which will leave you sated for longer.

Did you know that three eggs contain only 225 calories?  (Plus the frying oil...)

JS

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October 3, 2011
2:31 pm
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Of all the things that I have left behind since moving over to paleo, one dish is both dear to my heart and my tastebuds - it's Yorkshire pudding.

A dish of simple batter poured into well heated dishes with near-smoking dripping. Left to rise into "plates" and filled with meat, vegetables and gravy. It's been over three months ... this Sunday, I'm having a Yorkshire pudding with Silverside beef and some damn good veggies. I have a perfect bone marrow gravy ready to roll and it's going to be fantastic! It'll be a real treat and something I'm going to mark up as a non-sensical indulgence.

My processed cheese fancy has dropped right out ... no more ... no thanks. Coconut cream was an impulse buy and I've not had any for a good while now.

I do like a mushroom pate I buy from my local farm shop - it's blended with chicken livers and tastes amazing. For breakfast, I have a good helping of that on a lettuce leaf, chew, savour and enjoy ... follow up with a couple of tablespoons of natural probiotic yoghurt. It's all I can manage first thing and sets me up well 'til lunchtime. I have to play by the same rules as non-paleo people and eat at certain times at work.

I've also found two jerky/biltong producers that I really like. Lunches are difficult for me, preparation-wise, so a couple of bags of jerky, some pate or guacamole and a few things to scoop 'em up with are good for me. It's laziness and unpreparedness ... if I have not bothered, I starve and pig out in the evening on proper food. IF is happening quite naturally for me now. My poor body has no idea what's going to happen!

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October 7, 2011
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Yorkshire pudding looks like a cross between a pot pie and a bread bowl.  I could totally eat beanless chili in a nice, tough, crusty, sourdough bread bowl.  "If you're going to cheat, cheat with something delicious and portion-limited."

Strangely I'm not eating much coconut cream anymore either, though I still regularly cook with coconut oil.  Lately it's been eggs.  My recent cheats have all been either candy or soda after a meal.

Pate is a great lunch-on-the-go idea!  Unfortunately it's very hard to find here in the USA.  And occasional IF is probably good...somehow I doubt our ancestors managed to kill their prey at the same time every day.

JS

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October 8, 2011
12:10 am
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If I keep a healthy supply of full-fat (Fage) Greek yogurt in the fridge with some strawberry rhubarb conserve, I'm never tempted to "cheat."

That being said, I will admit that the toughest time of year for me is just after Easter... WHEN ALL THOSE GODDAMNED REESE'S PEANUT BUTTER EGGS GO ON SALE.

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