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1:52 pm
February 22, 2010
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QuoteStipetic:
My current understanding (which may not be correct) is that amino flux is similar to fat flux: lipids are always moving in and out of adipocytes. Similarly, as a result of autophagy and other ongoing repair/renewal processes, aminos are moving in and out too -- and the processes that use aminos can be substantially upregulated and downregulated (insulin inhibits autophagy, for instance, though I'm not sure whether it's because high glucose inhibits autophagy or the inhibition is direct).
I need to do more reading on this, and I appreciate any additional information you (or anyone else) can provide.
JS
7:36 pm
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7:05 pm
I came across your website while researching the subject, "Does Sugar Physically Weaken The Human Body?" This is a subject that my 10 year old daughter chose for her 5th grade science project. I watched my Nutrition Professor take 2 VERY strong young men and perform the following experiment with them; Sent both out of the room. Invited the first to come back into the room and had him stand with his arms to his sides. The professor pressed his wrists towards his legs and told his to try to lift his arms out to his sides... which he was able to do with NO problem. He did this twice. Then the professor asked if anyone, especially the young man if he had a sweet tooth. The young man told the professor that he didnt eat a lot of sugar, but he did eat some refined sugar. The professor named several reasons why sugar was so bad for our body's and then asked the young man to hold out his hand. He then poured out about 2 tsps of sugar in the palm of his hand and asked him to rub the sugar in his hand for one minute. While he timed him, he went on with more reasons sugar was evil... when the minute was up, he had the young man brush off the remaining sugar in the trash can. The professor repeated the same experiment and asked the young man to try to lift his arms. The young man could not do it. The young man, in disbelief tried again, and again with no luck. The young man even got VERY angry and put in ANGRY effort. still couldn't lift his arms. The professor asked his to sit down. He called for the next young man and performed the exact experiment and had the exact same results.
SO, my question is... does sugar really have that quick of an effect and such a drastic one on our bodies?? and if so.. Why does it make us weak like that?? By the way... I DID eat tons of sugar... starting IMMEDIATELY I'm eliminating sugar from my diet and eating protein with every meal!
8:06 pm
February 22, 2010
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Rebecca:
That's stage magic, not science. All the professor has to do is to hold your arms down in a different way. Give your subjects weights to lift and don't let them know what's being rubbed on their hands (i.e. do a controlled, blinded study), and you'll find that no objective difference exists.
Note that similar stage magic is used by the unscrupulous for "allergy tests": you're told to hold vials of allergen in your hand and "try your strength" against theirs. It's a safe bet that any such demonstrator is a quack.
That being said, there are plenty of sound metabolic reasons not to ingest refined sugar or HFCS -- especially in the quantities available in soft drinks, candy, and baked desserts. However, they have to do with factors such as:
- Refined sugar and HFCS contain no vitamins or nutrients, unlike whole foods
- Refined sugar and HFCS are high in fructose, which causes many problems when consumed in isolation and/or to excess
- Refined sugar and HFCS can cause huge blood sugar spikes and troughs when consumed in isolation and/or to excess, causing hunger, mood swings, etc.
- Refined sugar and HFCS can cause gut dysbiosis, SIBO, GERD, etc. when consumed in isolation and/or to excess
- All the issues I've already brought forth in the body of the article
I think a 5th grader would probably do best to concentrate on the first and third issues (nutrition, blood sugar swings). I wish you both the best with your project!
JS
9:43 am
[...] 1. Prevent the habit of frequent snacking [...]
7:02 am
As I understood it actually snacking is not the problem but eating some kind of carbohydrate without protein?
3:37 pm
February 22, 2010
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Irina:
Complete protein, yes. Most snacks are either protein-less or contain incomplete protein (e.g. grain proteins, which are low in lysine, and most plant proteins).
'Energy bars' are a bit better -- but they almost universally get their protein from soy, and they're usually full of sugar and Frankengredients.
Real food usually requires preparation, and by that point I'm eating a meal. The main reason to eat like a predator is to regain a healthy metabolism that can go without food when necessary, without leaving us weak from hunger. Then we can wait until we have access to delicious real food.
JS
4:21 am
for my snack i usually eat a tbsp of peanut butter, or 23 almond or 2 fruits such banana or apple - is these good for snack or should i completely avoided.
is it better to eat loads at one setting (say 700 kcal) so you dont have to eat snack?
what is your thoughts on this.
10:21 am
why is that most of the article i have read on the internet says it is good to have snack.
when you want to lose weight then snack is key to weight loss as it help manage hunger and reduce bingeing. Eating a healthy snack of a piece of fruit or some raw veggies can tame your hunger without ruining your appetite for your next meal.
1:17 pm
June 5, 2011
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... because "most of the internet" is backed by some kind of corporation backed interest. Follow the money.
Snacking is not necessary. In fact, snacking ruins leptin - your body's trigger which tells you when it is replete. Look back to the '80s where little bite-sized snacks crept in - small portions, just enough so as not to ruin appetite. All it did was creep more sugar into the diet and creep total calories.
Go from meal to meal. Savour hunger in between. Eat until replete when you do - without snacking and without overloading with sugar, leptin will guide you.
Living in the Ice Age
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10:46 pm
February 22, 2010
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jack:
I discourage snacking in general because of the reasons in this article (and more). Yes, eat more at the meal...if you're eating like a predator, it'll take hours to digest the food anyway, so those 700 kcal will be released very slowly. As a bonus, predatory eating will keep your blood sugar more stable.
If you can't make it between meals without snacking no matter how much you eat, that's a bad sign -- your metabolic flexibility is likely impaired, and you might have a bit of reactive hypoglycemia.
camron:
Paul pretty much nailed it: if we all stopped snacking, who would buy all that junk in the snack food aisles? It's not like we usually eat all those chips, dips, crisps, candies, puffs, bars, pastries, doodles, and dingbats with our meals...
As (I think) Brad Pilon said, "You don't lose weight by eating...you lose weight by not eating." If you feel that you have to snack, you either ate the wrong foods at your last meal (i.e. carb-heavy bready/sugary stuff, including so-called "healthy" junk like bagels and smoothies, that put you on the blood sugar rollercoaster) or you didn't eat enough of them.
JS
2:14 am
how about eating 2x boiled eggs or banana for snack. would this causes weight gain?
2:30 pm
Eating smaller meals more frequently reduces fat storage through portion control
Eating small, frequent meals helps prevent you from over-consuming calories
through simple portion control. Excess calories at one meal will always be converted into
body fat. When you consume a meal, the food is digested and directed into any cells
requiring immediate energy. Once the cells have received all the energy they need, the
body can store the excess fuel in the form of glycogen in the muscles and liver. However,
there’s only so much glycogen your body can store. Any excess calories beyond this limit
will be stored as body fat.
2:12 pm
February 22, 2010
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jack:
Boiled eggs are an excellent source of complete protein. As such, they qualify as a meal, not a snack...and sometimes it's not realistic to fix a full meal. I say go for it.
jack:
You'll need to justify those bold assertions. What the heck is "portion control", and why would it reduce fat storage? If you eat less, you'll just be hungry sooner.
If you eat a complete meal of meat or eggs, with plenty of fat, not too much starch, and no simple sugar, your body will take hours to digest it...for example, a mixed meal usually takes over four hours before it's even left the stomach, let alone fully digested! The reason people have to eat every few hours is that they're mostly eating quickly-digested carbohydrates, which are broken down, absorbed, and stored in just a couple hours...leaving them hungry again.
Read this article for a detailed study on the subject, using real-world foods.
JS
11:00 am
What about for a growing teen boy? My 15 year old son rarely eats breakfast and has lunch at the school cafeteria (not awful, but certainly not Paleo/Primal/Perfect Health Diet). Then he wants to snack continuously from the time he gets home through bedtime.
He used to eat bread with jam and peanut butter for snacks, and tons of fruit. I've been transitioning our family to an eating plan like Perfect Health Diet, so I'm no longer buying bread but I do buy rice cakes with seaweed as a substitute (which he eats plain). I've thought of keeping deviled eggs around (my son likes those), but am having trouble coming up with other good foods to have available for raiding quickly from the fridge.
Great posts. Thank you!
11:54 am
June 5, 2011
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Does he like meat? Have some shredded leftover meat always available. Brisket is good ... just slow cook it, let it cook, shred it and leave it in a bowl in the fridge. It'll last longer than the length of time it takes for him to eat it.
Guacamole? Well, just pureed avocado ... lovely with those eggs he likes and really nice with that shredded meat when going on a fridge raid.
Pate? Pah-tey 😀
Bread is just a means of communing good food to the mouth ... there are all manner of things that can be used instead. Chicory leaves (Endive, in US, I think), celery, small lettuce, mushrooms; try to steer him towards something on real food.
Meanwhile, those eggs will see him on and on ... HTH.
Living in the Ice Age
http://livingintheiceage.pjgh.co.uk
1:39 pm
Wonderful ideas, Paul! Thanks very much. He *loves* meat; in fact, he just finished off a pork roast that in many households would last a week! The guacamole is a great idea too. And I'd love to get some liver into him, so I'll try introducing him to pate.
I love your description of bread being a means of communicating good foot to the mouth. I was thinking that rice cakes could play that role, but your suggestions of celery, etc, are much better.
Thanks again!
M.
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