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Why Snacking Makes You Weak, Not Just Fat
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May 24, 2013
1:47 pm
Halifax, UK
Gnoll
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My pleasure :D

Do check the ingredients, though, since pate is often bulked with some kind of rusk. More artisan pates will be little more than liver, fat and spices.

Rice cakes are not altogether evil. You'll find many of us here are not averse to some white rice, especially the more active folks. The difficulty is finding one that is not laced with all manner of rubbish like MSG or so-called "yeast extract" which is practically dressed up MSG.

Purity is the key. Simple, straight-up rice cakes are okay, but not great for the long term since they get in the way of eating really good food. When grazing, you really want to build up with protein.

You'll find a way …

Meanwhile, you've got some more ideas.

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May 25, 2013
6:39 am
mtb
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Thanks for the heads up about the pate. I also thought I might try to find some good chopped liver recipes that I could spice to his liking.

The rice cakes are Lundberg Organic, so fairly straightforward but I agree it shouldn't get in the way of his eating more nutritious food. We are following Perfect Health Diet, which does call for a small amount of white rice and potatoes, and with time I'm sure we'll figure out what the right amount is for each of us.

Interestingly, my son hasn't once in the last month (since we started doing PHD) asked for bread, which we used to eat a lot of. I've increased the amount and frequency of meat, plus fat like good butter on the sweet potatoes, that we have at meals and I think that has been very satisfying for him!

Thank you again!!

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May 25, 2013
6:56 am
Halifax, UK
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You're among like-minded folks here. I know J says he eats close to what would be described in 'The Perfect Health Diet', I do, many here do.

Look into making pate – it's really not difficult. Home made often has a more loose consistency, but it's so much better.

Also, look at Potted Shrimp – basically, shrimp (in the UK, these are a different breed to what is called shrimp in the US, but either will do … small, Icelandic prawns would be perfect), mace and butter … set in the fridge.

Potted Meat is not too difficult: http://livingintheiceage.pjgh.co.uk/2011/06/potted-beef.html

How about a smoked mackerel spread? http://livingintheiceage.pjgh.co.uk/2012/11/smoked-mackerel-pate.html

You get the idea …

Again, whatever you put this real food on is simply a means of getting it to your mouth. Simply, a spoon will do.

Back to the post in hand …

J showed us how snacking is not good. I've commented above that going from meal to meal and savouring the hunger in between is a good thing. Eat full and real meals when you do.

That said, I remember when I was "a growing lad" in a vegetarian household! I ate a lot of oats … enough to make anyone think I was a horse :D I would have been very envious of a fridge stocked with some boiled eggs, a bowl of shredded meat and a handful of lettuce leaves to make a wrap with, fuelling my long evenings of homework and revision.

Again, while snacking is not ideal, perhaps it's more a case that your lad needs a further meal … and so, offering good, real food for a small meal is a good thing. Proper protein and fat really can't be wrong. Carry on. I hope the links give some more ideas.

My motto on a couple of paleo forums is: "Needs more fish ..." ... I do think everyone could do with more oily fish in their diets. Mackerel, sardine, sild, herring, even salmon; all good, all make good pates, all work well simply cooked, chilled and crushed onto anything that can be pushed into your mouth :D

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May 25, 2013
1:44 pm
mtb
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More wonderful ideas! Thanks so much for taking the time. I didn't know about the potted shrimp; sounds delicious. We do need more fish in our diet, and making them into pates is a great idea. The potted meats sound yummy also.

I'm with you (and this article) on the snacking. Unfortunately it is something we have all done around this house for a long time, but that was when we were eating lots of whole grains/beans/light on meat and fat. I need to train myself not to snack as well; honestly, some of it is just habit. However, my son rarely eats breakfast and his school lunch is so-so in nutrition, so he's probably ravenous for "real" food when he gets home. I think I'll make an effort to have a small "meal" waiting for him (not unlike "tea" for kids in the UK?) rather than having him troll for snacks all afternoon. That might tide him over until dinner and help train him to space his eating.

Wow! I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help.
Wishing you the best of health,
M.

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May 27, 2013
12:58 pm
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mtb:

You can relax the "no snacking" rule for growing teenagers, who most likely need the extra energy, as long as the foods available contain complete protein.  Especially if he's eating lunch at school (usually both gross and inadequate) and not eating breakfast, which will leave him ravenous when he gets home...the extra afternoon meal is probably necessary.

Paul's ideas are very good.  Additionally, mashed potatoes (with plenty of butter) can be quickly microwaved and eaten, as can white rice...but make sure they're eaten with some meat!

JS

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May 28, 2013
1:13 pm
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Thanks, JS, for more great ideas! I haven't tried Paul's recipes yet (I've been down with the second of 2 bad colds in a row; I'm hoping that our new way of eating will improve that!). But I did make deviled eggs for the afternoon "meal" today and they were very well-received. Also stocked up on various grass-fed meats at Whole Foods, and I'm looking forward to having a fridge full of great options. (Any good ideas for buying grass-fed at lower prices than WF?)

BTW, I'm trying your Paleo Scramble tonight.

Great website. Thank you!!

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May 28, 2013
1:26 pm
mtb
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P.S. Has the Gnoll Credo been released in Kindle format? I was just looking into buying it as a thank you for your website...

M.

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June 10, 2013
1:43 am
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mtb:

There is no ebook version available at this time...we'll let everyone know when that changes.  However, the paper version is only $10.95, and it's available worldwide.

Thank you for your interest and support!

JS

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July 6, 2016
4:15 pm
Amanda
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Just found your website and it's amazing, such a wealth of information, given in a format that is easy to read and understand.
Thank you for a great website!

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July 19, 2016
1:52 am
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Amanda:

You're welcome! I do my best.

JS

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August 20, 2016
9:46 am
J. Lee
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"If your blood sugar is high (twice normal), insulin stimulates whole body proteolysis."

"Every time you eat high-sugar, protein-deficient food—even whole fruit and “heart-healthy complex carbohydrates”—you’re making yourself fatter and weaker."

These two statements seem to be in conflict. Complex carbs do not spike your blood sugar as high as simple carbs, so I doubt that having an apple in the afternoon would cause whole body proteolysis.

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November 7, 2016
10:28 am
Christtin
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Just dont eat ! Once a month consume food. Simple

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December 18, 2016
5:08 am
Elizabeth Spinner
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I found this site when I did a search for "does meat rot in your colon" which I was pretty sure had been debunked some time ago. Anyway, I read more, especially "eat like a predator" and am now trying to eat more paleo-ish, at any rate increasing my protein and decreasing my white bread, pasta, and white rice. After a week's experiment I noticed that I don't have an after lunch food coma and urge to nap and if I have enough protein at a meal I have little urge to snack. Thanks for explaining this theory of eating in a way that makes a lot of scientific sense. I already kind of knew humans ought to be omnivores based on our teeth but you laid everything out in a way that really makes sense. I'm not going to give myself anxiety if I don't adhere perfectly but as long as it keeps making me feel good and as much as I can afford I will keep this going. I am old enouh now that I think I have finally grown out of "if I can't do it perfectly I shouldn't even bother"

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