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"Eat Like A Predator, Not Like Prey": Paleo In Six Easy Steps, A Motivational Guide
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March 27, 2012
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... as a predator, I'm happy to answer your direct food questions:

1. Protein shakes - okay, so long as it is directly after very strenuous activity and made from undenatured milk, no emulsifier and no flavouring, preferably with a shot of fresh espresso and a slug of whisky! That, relaxing tired muscles in a bath of hot water is fantastic! Routinely, as a meal replacement, poor. Eat real food!

2. Get your pork from a Butcher! Find pork that is closer to the ground than a factory. If you can, have a Butcher slice you some belly for bacon.

3. Cottage Cheese - I love the stuff! It's good! Dairy, especially off product dairy like whey cheese and fermented dairy is superb! Eat and enjoy, so long as you are tolerant.

4. Greek Yoghurt - unless you're in Europe, the chances are you're eating "Greek style yoghurt". Greek Yoghurt is PDO protected. Anything else is fake. That said, it's still good - soured dairy as Greek-style yoghurt, Smetana, Skyr, whatever ... good stuff, but get it live with a real culture working in there for good gut health.

Generally, "paleo", "primal" and "predator" eating is about getting the best you can. Seek out the best resources and shun those that a poor.

To fat burning, something I have slid into and think I'm doing it well ...

When you sleep, you enter a phase of fat burning - you can continue that throughout the morning by continuing the fast (skipping breakfast), but for me, it helps to have a little fat and carb first thing - two tablespoons of full fat yoghurt and I'm set! I can feel energised and my brain is on fire for the morning! Greek yoghurt and cream cheese will do the same for you.

I eat in a compressed window from noon to mid-evening. That little fatty dairy in the morning re-stimulates my body into doing some fat burning. I replenish over lunch and dinner with two larger meals. At the weekend, I brunch on a classic "English Breakfast", skip lunch and eat late in the evening.

I err away from carbs in the evening, generally. Meat or fish and greens for dinner. I also like something fatty for dessert and often have a panna cotta - this is double cream, vanilla essence, glucose syrup and gelatine. This sets me up overnight and when I wake ... just a tickle of fatty dairy and I'm out of the gate and into the day!

Lunch? Light and this is where you put anything carby ... just a little, though. I like to eat fishy things for lunch, cold, with salady things. Again, yoghurt, smetana, soured cream alongside.

I'm northern European and very happy with dairy. In fact, culturally happy with dairy. As a paleo eater, I can reconcile my dairy intake as something perfectly natural and right for me.

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April 3, 2012
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I have bee living the Paleo lifestyle for around 8 weeks and everything is good but I cant seem to break my addiction to sugar (in particular fizzy drinks, ice cream, chocolate, bread based cakes and the odd glass of red wine). My weight has dropped steadily but I know it could be even more dramatic if I were to cut out these things. Please don't tell me to eat more fat because no matter how much animal fat I consume in a day I always get sugar cravings - particularly in the evenings.

Can anyone give me some advice on how to break the sugar cycle?

April 3, 2012
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Fleur:

First, don't worry about the odd glass of red wine...I see no evidence that it's bad for us.

Second, you've only been paleo for eight weeks.  If experience is any guide, you'll be experiencing changes to your physical and mental state for at least a year.  It'll become easier and easier to resist the temptation.

Meanwhile, might I suggest the following:

* Have a square or two of dark chocolate (85-90%) for dessert.  (The Lindt 90% is my favorite.)  It's natural to want something tasty for dessert, especially when we're so used to giving ourselves the treat!

* Set yourself a rule: no snacking.  Period.  Either eat a meal or suck it up.  Then, once you've eaten, if you still want your cheat, go ahead...but since you'll have already satiated yourself with real food, you're much less likely to go on a binge.  

Besides, 140 calories of Coca-Cola every once in a while isn't as bad for you as thousands of calories worth of hideous fake "primal cupcakes" made from n-6-laden nut flour and stevia.  Blech!

* What's your carb intake like?  If you're VLC, you might just be craving carbs, not junk food in general.  15% of calories is a reasonable target for anyone who isn't very physically active...more if you are.  

Keep in mind that it takes about 40 calories to digest a pound of green veggies, so most leafy vegetables are actually calorie-negative.  Root vegetables, OTOH, will be strongly calorie-positive.

* Don't stress about it too hard as long as you're making progress towards your goals.  Once progress stalls, that's a good time to get more stringent with your diet.

Hope this helps!  

JS

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April 3, 2012
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Fleur - I'm a little bit ahead of you, now about a year of ancestral eating. During that time, my requirement of the diet has changed dramatically - first, I needed a lot more fat to give me the energy after dropping off such high carbohydrate intake. Now, I'm quite the reverse and just use a little fat to wet up veggies, erring towards leaner meat. We're just coming into spring, so that might well be a factor - come next autumn, I might well be chowing down on the fatty meats again.

Seasonal eating is a big factor and as you progress into your ancestral eating journey, you'll find your groove. Sensible indulgences are just that ... red wine, chocolate, some spirits, even, are all good. The key focus is to absolutely enjoy it when you do. No guilt!

Paleo is an inclusive diet - what you CAN eat. Prescriptive diets which tells you the paradigm within which you MUST stay in order for the diet to "work" are just bunk. Really! How can anyone progress for the rest of their life like that? Paleo eating releases you - you can have that chocolate, you can have that glass of wine, or two ... or bottle if the fancy takes you.

Eating paleo will put you much more in touch with YOU. From there, you will love those treats, but you will also love reserving them as just that - treats. Pleasures of being alive, rather than rewards for "doing well".

 

But ...

 

First, you do need to break the cycle and, just as J said, stop snacking. Go from meal to meal savouring the hunger - this will take a mere few days to break through. Really, that little. Same as giving up cigs - it's a bigger hurdle in your mind than it is in actual fact.

Go from meal to meal and satisfy yourself then. Don't snack in between. The regularity of eating will release you from cravings and set you up for the next step which you might have heard about - fasting. Skipping a meal, just because; eating in a compressed time window, just because. Fasting only really works effectively once you've broken your addiction.

That's a strong word, but that's what it is.

Once you're through that, the next phase is a joy - you will love eating, you will love not eating, you will love fasting and the clarity and purity than comes with it, and the joy of eating afterwards.

J's 'Predator Principle' is very sound indeed. More useful, I think, than the rather stark definition of paleo. Take time to read it through again - I think you'll understand the snacking thing a little better after savouring that.

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April 5, 2012
12:30 am
Fleur
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Thanks JS and Paul for your answers. I will try not to stress too much about it as this causes comfort eating too! I'm currently 9st 12lb and want to get down to 9st 5lb but will continue the Paleo lifestyle even after that.

My carb intake comes mostly from fresh vegetables. I try and avoid potatoes as the starch causes my insulin levels to spike (but definitely still miles better than cake). Plus, I'm recovering from a broken shoulder at the moment so can't do much in the way of exercise so don't really need to bulk myself up with energy dense foods!!

Would it help to also follow paleo eating patterns as well as foodstuffs ( ie little or nothing during the day then a big meal at night)? Would this contribute to weight loss?

Many thanks 🙂

April 5, 2012
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The quick answer is ... it varies.

Everyone is different - I find that practically nothing in the morning (a couple of spoons of probiotic yoghurt) with a light lunch (erring on the side of fish and salad), then a large evening meal no later than 8 PM works well ... for me. My main outdoor activity is between 5 and 7 PM, after which, I eat. That is pretty much what could be called a "compressed eating window" of 8 hours from noon, the rest, fasting.

Others like a hearty breakfast, some lunch and a evening meal, and whatever combinations thereof that you can dream up. I depends upon the person, what they're doing and ... whether fasting is part of their lifestyle.

Fasting really is only useful once you've killed off the snacking. Jack Kruse has written a lot about this, and how to break the snacking/craving cycle - as I said above, it is fast but does need some discipline.

Once you're into a habit of a good eating plan that suits you, you can then accelerate further weight loss by messing that cycle up - eating a good breakfast if you don't usually, skipping lunch if you usually rely on it, eating less protein in the evening, having a starch binge (!) or having a day where fat is the principal source of energy, keeping protein and carbs right down.

There is a key to this in the phrase "intermittent fasting" ...

Intermittent - this is a trigger, not a way of life. Do this periodically. I like to use something outside of my control to determine when - if it snows, do something different, if you're just a little late for a meal because of unforseen work patterns, skip it, if your car is running low on gas ... all sorts of things can be used to initiate a fast, or rather, a change in the normal routine.

That's the long answer.

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April 5, 2012
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Fleur:

Some form of intermittent fasting or meal skipping can be an excellent weight-loss tool -- IF you're not forcing yourself to do it.  If you are, you'll just be miserable -- and likely catabolize muscle mass you don't want to lose.  Don't rush it -- I've been "paleo" for over a year, and my body and metabolism are still slowly changing and improving.

"Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to" is a good rule of thumb.  Some people, like myself, do fine skipping breakfast and not eating until late afternoon...others do best with a big, hearty breakfast but no lunch.  Either way, it's best for your first meal to include plenty of complete protein, and to be lower in carbohydrate than the evening meal.  Once your metabolism has normalized to the point where lunch rolls around and you're just not hungry, that's when you start thinking about fasting and meal skipping.

JS

April 12, 2012
5:42 pm
Neil G
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Hey guys, thanks for your responses on my earlier questions. The one area i feel lost in is the meat category, I walk down the meat section without a clue.

Which are the fattier cuts? I am also on a budget so cant spend a ton of dough.
what's the best bang for my buck?
If the meat isn't grass fed, should i still be getting the fatty cut? or is that fat gonna be shitty omega 6?

I emailed a guy who runs a wholesale meat farm and asked him "are your cows 100% grass fed?" and this is his reply, maybe you can help me make out if he's got the goods or not.

He replied,

"Hi Neil,
I have thought about your "100% grass fed" question. I am not sure how technical I need to be to answer your question to your satisfaction.
I don't think there is 100% grass pastures in Ontario. Any farmer worth his salt will have some legumes in the pasture seed mix. The legumes consist of alfalfa and clovers. The legumes provide added nutrition for the cattle as well as lengthens the pasture season into the fall. Grass growth slows down as the summer moves along. Think of your lawn. You can mow it twice a week in June and maybe twice in the month of August. Legumes continue growing until there is a frost.
Hay (dried grass and legumes) is harvested late spring and early summer and stored for winter feeding. Oats, barley and wheat are grasses. So is corn a grass, believe it or not. Soybeans are a legume. So our cattle are grass and legume fed all year around. Whether it is in the form of pasture or stored hay and silages for winter. Cattle in Ontario are fed stored feeds 5 to 7 months of year.
Beef Connections cattle that are destined to end up on the BBQ are generally kept in the stable and fed a ration that is made up stored forages and grains. When the cattle have obtained the desired finish (fatness) they are sent to abattoir and processed into those well marbled steaks that many enjoy on the BBQ and fine restaurants.
I am bouncing around here, but I hope you can glean some idea of the complexity. There is such a wide gap in knowledge between rural (farming) and the urban citizens of Ontario. To complicate things farmers try to set themselves apart from one another by stating their animals are 100% grass fed , traditionally raised, natural ………. etc.
While composing this reply I have another thought on the "100% grass fed". It could be that you are referring to some farmers that raise cattle that are only fed grass (grasses and legumes) whether on pasture or fed hay in the off seasons. No grains.
Cattle fed the "100% grass" diet tend to be older when slaughtered for they take longer to grow to a marketable size. Their meat is leaner and they are generally dry aged longer (3 to 4 weeks) because they are older and hence have tougher meat. Aging mitigates that toughness. The breed of cattle the farmer has makes a big difference on this too.
Ee-gads! I have to get some work done. I hope I made sense."

April 15, 2012
9:59 am
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Hey JS haven't commented here in a long while but I'm still reading. I went back over the earlier articles as well, including this one and I saw in the comments you are still responding to and answering the noobs. A lot of the Paleo ppl have stopped this mostly and its nice to see you still personally answer questions and still try to help guide the noobs. After 2 yrs of this lifestyle, my IBS is gone, my anger control problems have vanished, I'm still a little guy (5ft 7in, 135 lbs) but I look like Bruce Lee. Lol I love this and my mind state has shifted into a more "rational" and I guess I would say a less "emotional" basic platform of awareness. Idk, that part is harder to explain. Anyway thanks for being real and actually doing something worthwhile. Moving towards a predatory type lifestyle and mindset has certainly made me more ambitious albeit for very different things than in the past. I could (and prob should) write a book on all the deeper intrinsic-to-life things that change once this lifestyle really takes hold. I'm with Peggy at the Primal Parent, I think it actually does change both your body and mind further proving that they are NOT separate but one whole entity.
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April 16, 2012
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Neil G:

Fat is the white part, so look for stuff with a lot of white inside the muscle.

The fattiest cheap cuts will be hamburger (of course) and chuck roasts.  Round tends to be very lean, as is most sirloin (unless the butcher leaves the lip around the edge).  Tri-tip and short ribs are great if you can find them on sale.  I won't buy the tubes of hamburger from the packing plant: I only buy fresh ground from the store (it'll come on a tray, not in a tube).

The main thing with meat on a budget is to shop the sales, and stock your freezer when the cuts you want become cheap.  I've bought entire rib primals (= 20 pounds worth of ribeye steak) for $5/pound!

I still buy fatty cuts, even at the supermarket, because the n-3/n-6 ratio of grain-fed beef is still better than even pastured chicken or pork -- let alone factory chicken/pork.

As far as the rancher you're talking to, he's most certainly dancing around the fact that his beef is grain-finished.  (This is because most places want the most intramuscular fat, and the fastest way to do that is to feed the animal a lot of grain.)  The best question to ask is "Is your beef finished on pasture?"  If no, they're finished in a feedlot like most beef.  If yes, ask "Is their feed supplemented with corn or other grains?"

Note that, contrary to his assertion, grass-finished does NOT mean tough and lean!  Here's a 100% grass-finished rib primal I personally cut (and ate part of):

What you want is someone who finishes on pasture and doesn't supplement, and feeds his beef hay cut from the pasture during the winter.  Also, for best nutrition and flavor, you want your beef to be slaughtered after it's been feeding on fresh pasture for at least 90 days, and preferably 120, which most likely means "late summer/early fall" in your area.  

I should write an article about this someday!

Daniel:

Glad to hear from you again!

"my mind state has shifted into a more "rational" and I guess I would say a less "emotional" basic platform of awareness."

Me too!  I'm not sure it's natural to be emotional over things that don't matter.  Paleolithic life was full of real risks, real triumphs, and real tragedies.  Survival was not guaranteed by the state -- life was something we had to earn every day, and our actions had meaningful and immediate consequences that could easily include our death.  Powerful emotions are for when something real actually happens...not when a sports team wins, a celebrity gets married, or someone is stupid on the Internet. 

"Moving towards a predatory type lifestyle and mindset has certainly made me more ambitious albeit for very different things than in the past."

Good!  All leadership is self-elected.

Yes, mind and body are one, and have never been separate: what we call "mind" is just the part of the body that is self-aware.

JS

April 20, 2012
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Sally
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Hi, I've been Paleo since December 26th and have only lost 18 lbs. I get very minimal excersize as I am disabled with a severly bad back and knees, I can't even walk a block without being in severe pain, I try to do some movement when i'm sitting down or I can walk in a store holding onto a cart, should I cut my portions, not that they are big, in order to see if I lose more weight, i'm currently 239 and my goal is 150, any help would be appreciated.

April 20, 2012
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Sally:

"only 18 pounds?"  That's a pound a week, which is a good, sustainable pace considering you're doing minimal exercise.  (Even the mainstream diet advice generally recommends a pound a week as a weight loss goal.)  I would only be concerned if you stop losing that pound a week and you're still well above your goal weight.

That being said, you can try some experiments.  Eating your carbohydrates for dinner instead of at breakfast can help.  If you're drinking calories in any form, cutting those out can make a big difference while allowing you to leave your portions the same.  Nuts and nut butters are another concentrated source of calories that many people find don't satiate in proportion to their calorie contribution.  And some people find that they can skip breakfast or lunch occasionally and still feel fine...but be careful with this, because if it makes you feel like you're starving and you snack or binge to compensate, you haven't done yourself any favors.

It's most important to keep eating in a way that lets you not be hungry all the time...you might lose the weight faster, but the moment you get tired of being hungry, you'll gain the weight back!

JS

April 22, 2012
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Hi Sally, could you not just try skipping breakfast? I find if I have a really fatty Dinner in the evening, I can get away with a cup of black coffee when I wake and am fine till lunch time (sometimes I even can just wait till Dinner that evening).

April 25, 2012
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I have this website bookmarked and I love this article, I've kinda already read it zillion times, and, from time to time I come back.

But, IMHO, the only topic that I think had an unfair/undeserved attention/reputation (when it shouldn't) is fruit and its fructose.
Two readings I like about it; 'Should you be afraid of fructose (James Krieger ) http://weightology.net/?p=434

best regards

April 25, 2012
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Hugo:
http://drbganimalpharm.blogspot.com/search/label/Fructose

Dr BG pretty much nails it as usual.

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Hugo:

I've noticed that all the people who say "Fructose is OK, stop being an alarmist" are athletes (often endurance athletes), who are continually depleting their liver glycogen and can easily absorb it.  For the average mostly-sedentary American, it's wise to be more cautious.

Also, I see no benefits to fructose.  It appears to be inferior to glucose in all ways: at best it's a heavily oxidation-prone version of glucose that's limited to replenishing liver glycogen.

I agree that Lustig overstates his case, and I think his calls for regulation are ill-conceived -- but I see no reason to consume it in any more than dessert quantities of fruit.

JS

May 3, 2012
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Great useful article!

May 7, 2012
10:40 am
Jess
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Just a quick question about the paleo diet. It seems to me that one would not get enough potassium and fiber from it. Or are the daily recommended too high to begin with?

May 7, 2012
10:43 am
Jess
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Oh, and would the paleo diet be safe for a type 2 diabetic with high triglycerides and fatty liver disease?

May 7, 2012
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Ferd:

Thank you!  I've done my best to boil everything down to essentials.

Jess:

There's plenty of potassium in meat: a five-ounce steak has as much potassium as a banana!  And the humble white potato is loaded with potassium.  Fruits and vegetables have plenty of it...

...in contrast, neither white nor whole wheat bread contains meaningful amounts of potassium.  So you'll be getting far more potassium on a paleo diet than you would otherwise.

Re: "would the paleo diet be safe for a T2D?", I don't feel comfortable giving you medical advice: see my disclaimer on the left sidebar.  However, I can say that from what I've seen, paleo diets generally seem to do an excellent job at lowering triglycerides and addressing fatty liver (both of which seem to be caused or exacerbated by excessive dietary carbohydrate, particularly fructose).  T2D is a disease of impaired glucose metabolism ("insulin resistance"), so it seems logical that reducing one's dietary load of glucose and reducing systemic inflammation generally, via a paleo diet, would be a good idea.  But the ultimate responsibility for dietary decisions, and their consequences, rests with you.

Steve Cooksey is a source of more information about paleo and T2D.  

JS

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