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"Eat Like A Predator, Not Like Prey": Paleo In Six Easy Steps, A Motivational Guide
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May 9, 2012
1:40 pm
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Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions 🙂 It's my fiance with the health probelms, I am just trying to help him out as best I can. We will def bring up the Paleo diet to our doctor next appointment. Thanks again 🙂

May 9, 2012
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Jess - Just remember to ask your Doc an awkward question about bloods or nutrition and then laugh at them when they falter, prodding, "you don't know, do you?" Embarassed

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May 11, 2012
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Jess:

Often bringing up the word "paleo" makes doctors suspicious or hostile.  You might mention that you're eating more fresh meat, fish, vegetables, and fruit, and less processed food and sugar.  Of course, anything made with "grains" is a processed food by definition -- but you probably don't need to go into that unless they ask for details.

JS

May 17, 2012
7:17 pm
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Has anyone ever prevented or cured cancer with this diet? My mother ate mostly vegetables and organic chicken and bounced back from two major cancer surgeries.

May 17, 2012
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Renee:
I've read some studies on a ketogenic diet shrinking cancerous tumors. While this diet isn't nessecarily ketogenic, it can be and it's a damn sight healthier than the typical ketogenic diets used in studies and was (is) used to treat epilepsy.

May 18, 2012
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Disagree on the dairy issue... a lot of Indo-Europeans have genetically adapted to milk over 10,000 years of farming, and thrive on it. The milk should be whole and raw, though.

My wife thought she was "lactose intolerant", til she started dating me. Then she tried raw milk and raw milk cheeses, and found she could handle them just fine.

May 18, 2012
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I find gnolls.org to be one of the more dairy-friendly paleo sites ... so long as it is good dairy: fatty, fermented or raw. Good on you, van Rooinek for introducing your good lady to proper dairy.

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May 19, 2012
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van Rooinek:

There's a reason I don't proscribe dairy altogether, and place "Experiment with removing dairy" as one of the final steps.  Some people seem to do very well with dairy products, some people find that removing it solves nagging problems.

There is also the matter of degree and quantity.  Even people with no lactase persistence can digest small quantities of lactose via gut bacteria, and this quantity may well be increased by enzymes in raw dairy and some consequent rebalancing of gut flora.

That being said, my desire for cheese has dropped nearly to zero now that I eat plenty of fatty red meat...but I still enjoy the occasional insalata caprese.

Renee:

I wouldn't be so brash as to make such claims…but I don't think that having cancer changes what a healthy diet should be.  In fact, I would think it makes healthy diet even more critically important!

That being said, DT is correct that a ketogenic diet has shown some success with certain types of tumors, and it's reasonably easy to make Paleo ketogenic.  Paul Jaminet at Perfect Health Diet has written some good articles about how to make diets ketogenic: I recommend looking through these articles if you're interested.  Note that "organic chicken and vegetables" is definitely a low-carb diet, and probably ketogenic unless "vegetables" includes starchy tubers like potatoes.

I'm glad to hear that your mother has done well!

JS

May 19, 2012
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Insalata di Caprese, thank you ...

Sounds better: Capri Salad vs Salad of Capri. Say it like an Italian, shaking a supinated hand 😀

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May 24, 2012
9:11 pm
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I like the idea about living like a predator. Kudos to the author for that. It is like saying don't be anyone's bitch or take what's rightfully yours. However eating so much meat will give you cancer someday my friends. Despite what the author is saying, humans are not meant to be carnivorous species. Look at this fact. When the Nazis invaded a country they took away most all of the meat for themselves. In all of these instances the death rate of the natives dropped dramatically. What do you say to the facts author? We are simply meant to be a vegetarian species. notice how heavy you feel like you need to lay down after you eat a big steak vs how you could run and play, like a predator, if you just had some vegetables and grains.

May 24, 2012
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Quite the contrary - grain makes us lethargic, bloated and sick; meat leaves us bounding with energy and happy for immediate activity.

I'll leave J to shoot the rest of the fish in this barrel ...

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May 29, 2012
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Vegan:

I'm glad you enjoy the take-home, even if we disagree on diet.

However, meat doesn't cause cancer.  In fact, vegetarians have more bowel cancer than meat-eaters!  

Am J Clin Nutr May 2009 vol. 89 no. 5 1620S-1626S
Cancer incidence in vegetarians: results from the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition (EPIC-Oxford)
Timothy J Key, Paul N Appleby, Elizabeth A Spencer, Ruth C Travis, Andrew W Roddam, and Naomi E Allen

"The incidence rate ratio for colorectal cancer in vegetarians compared with meat eaters was 1.39 (95% CI: 1.01, 1.91)."

 

And contrary to your "facts" (which probably came from "Forks over Knives"), the death rate in Norway dropped well before animal products were rationed.

"During the first year [starting in spring of 1940] the rationing included all imported foods, bread, fats, sugar, coffee, cocoa, syrup, and coffee substitute. In the second year [starting in late 1941] all kinds of meat and pork, eggs, milk and dairy products were rationed…"

See the problem?

Animal foods didn’t really dwindle from Norwegian kitchens until the end of 1941. Even if we ignore the fact that changes in mortality would naturally lag behind changes in diet, it’s hard to blame the 1941 drop in cardiovascular disease on something that mostly happened in 1942!  

(Full reference and critique here.)

For those interested in the actual evolutionary background and diet of our ancestors, this ongoing series lays out the established evidence.  

JS

May 29, 2012
8:22 am
The Girl in Yoga Pan
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This is fabulous! I'd like to include a link to it on my blog, if you don't mind. I'm just getting started losing weight after a recent pregnancy and some new health issues I've just found out about. I like this post because I just recently wrote about not wanting to be model-thin - I want to be lean, like a tiger. This fits me perfectly!

May 30, 2012
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TGIYP:

I'm glad you find this article inspiring...and you're always welcome to link to me!

In my opinion, model-thin only looks good in pictures...in person it's a bit creepy.

JS

June 9, 2012
2:35 am
jan
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i want to know if cottage cheese is ok to eat. also which types of potatoes are the best (e.g. sweet potatoes, baby potatoes).
my third question, at home we tend to eat lots of white rice it it ok to eat white rice at moderation.

thank u

June 9, 2012
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jan:

Is cottage cheese OK to eat?  The most important question is "Do you feel any better if you eliminate cheese and other dairy products?"  If not, then carry on.  If so, make your own judgment.  Dairy is a gray area…for me, butter and cream are fine, but if I drink a lot of milk or eat a lot of cheese, I get a little bit of acne.

And that's why I place "Experiment with eliminating dairy" as one of the final steps: tolerances to it seem to differ dramatically from person to person.

JS

June 9, 2012
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What I find quite interesting is that northern Europeans have such little dairy intolerance; something like 4% only. Even then, I wonder how much that figure is inflated by Indian sub-continent people who do not so readily produce lactase, but seem fine with goat milk.

Carry that one through to north America, land of northern Europeans. Certainly so, only a few generations back, yet, have a much higher percentile intolerance of dairy.

What happened?

To put a positive statement in about dairy, fermented dairy is better – that's yoghurt, cheese, soured cream, skyr, kefir and so on. Fatty dairy is next best, cream, basically.

If you find yourself intolerant to cow, try goat. Goat seems to have been domesticated much longer and much farther ago. Beyond that, see if you can get some kind of local beast – deer, moose, cairibou, that kind of creature. These tend to have much fattier milk than cow. Fat is fine.

Many paleo diet routines will talk about removing certain food groups for a period of detox, something like 30 days, then re-introduce to see how you feel. J has talked at length about the dangers of self-experimentation and the "feel okay" factor – we know there is more to food than just eating it.

Personally, I think dairy is a fine source of food. Personally, I prefer to let nature's little miracle of fermentation take the guesswork out of the equation – yoghurt, skyr, kefir, cheese, cottage cheese.

Eat, enjoy, remove milk, though … it too close to factory farming for my liking.

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June 10, 2012
4:38 am
amir
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if i eliminate all wholegrain food such as bread, pasta, brown rice and whole grain cereals than how i am gonna get my Carbs from. also if i don't eat enough Carbs i always feel tired.

i want to get six-pack also i go gym 5 days a week and i do interval training with boxing but i don't seems to lower my belly fat. if you can tell me what i am doing wrong.

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amir:

See step 1: "Get your ‘carbohydrates’ (sugars) from plants—not their seeds."  Root vegetables, such as sweet potatoes and white potatoes, are high in carbohydrate.  So are the other starches I listed in that step.  And if you're really putting forth intense effort, white rice is another concentrated source of starch.

Though it's a complex issue, I think your consumption of "bread, pasta, brown rice, and whole grain cereals" may well be related to the belly fat.  Active people absolutely do better with some carbs in their diet to replete muscle glycogen -- but glycogen isn't a major energy source (for the metabolically flexible) until you're over ~50% of VO2max, so most people aren't burning nearly as many carbs as they think.  Try switching to the carb sources I recommend above and see how you do.

(Note: losing that last increment of six-pack fat is usually very difficult, it's not necessarily correlated with perfect health...and whole books have been written about it, so I can't possibly hope to cover the subject in a comment.) 

JS

June 11, 2012
2:22 am
sami
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my meal plan.

is there anything wrong with my meal plan?

morning: 1x canned wild salmon, 1x banana, half cucumber
snack: 1x large sweet potatoes, 3x oranges
lunch: 2x grilled chicken breast with 2x apple
snack: 1 cup cottage cheese, 24 almond
dinner: 85g of lamb (trimmed fat) with broccoli and peas

i am 19 male and i go gym 4 times a week and i do a lot of cardio and intense workout. i also take 100% whey protein powder and on occasion Creatine monohydrate.

i want to know if i eat a lot of red meat, fish,vegetables, fruits, whey protein and eggs (not yolk) than isn't too much protein in my diet also this will have a negative effect on my kidneys which is what worrying me the most.

(i have eliminated all wholegrain foods from my meal plan)

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